Interview with Juli Slattery
Sep 03, 2024
In the spring of 2024, Dr. Juli Slattery interviewed me about "How to Know if Your Marriage Can Recover From Betrayal." She released the interview on her podcast Java with Juli, an extension of her ministry Authentic Intimacy.
During the interview, we discussed a variety of topics, but focused primarily on the difference between first, second, and third order change. I've linked an article below for more detail, but here's a quick summary:
- 1st Order - change in Behavior
- 2nd Order - change in Thinking
- 3rd Order - changing in Identity
Enjoy the conversation!
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